Comments on: The Universal Camouflage Conundrum

By: Multicam Experiment « MANSIZEDTARGET.COM

Multicam Experiment « MANSIZEDTARGET.COM — Sun, 27 Dec 2009 18:01:54 +0000

[...] Dec 2009 by Mr. Roach The US Army has started fielding Multicam (and a version of its own uniform with brown mixed in) in Afghanistan. The Army adopted its blue-grey ACU pattern [...]

By: Nick

Nick — Sun, 20 Dec 2009 15:23:21 +0000

Ok im a teengaer but my dads in the army i think that they should go to marpat because the marine core offered it allready and it should be like back in the day when they used the bdu and dcu so i think its the best path and we dont haft to spend that much money so it all works out

By: Jack

Jack — Sat, 24 Oct 2009 14:49:20 +0000

Ryan is exactly right. I’m a mustang myself and have fought for any gear that my units have had to purchase be in either solid Coyote or solid Foliage. But as Ryan says, it gets harder each year to find it.

Hey Gates – listen to Ryan. Just buy the F-n Kit in whatever new pattern you need, and leave the freaking uniform changes alone for awhile.

By the way – one $3 box of “Rit Dye” ™ in a tub of water fixes your “dosen’t look right in this environment” problem. It’s the difference of being in the Field Army, and being in the Operations Army. Freakin’ Scientists…

By: AT

AT — Thu, 22 Oct 2009 16:45:09 +0000

I am in the delayed entry program, will be shipping out soon. I pray to God that they do not go for ACU-D. I believe the MRAT is the way to go. If not then Multicam.

By: abushnell

abushnell — Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:06:40 +0000

The first time I saw this UCP-Delta pattern….i said “Um…NO!” I just looks like dirty ACUs. And if they’re just gonna use the same gear we got now, what’s the point. You’re still gonna be able to spot it out. Multi-cam would be the way to go, cuz it works. BUT…that just makes too much sense. The guys who decide what we wear are just gonna go with the UCP-D, just for the fact that it will be cheaper. I guess money is more important for us soldiers.

By: Michael Z. Williamson

Michael Z. Williamson — Tue, 06 Oct 2009 14:33:13 +0000

What boggled me was besides the ACUs, creating whole new rucks, ponchos, liners and even MECHANIC COVERALLS, that have been OD for 75 years, in homophlage.

I call it that because it’s become more like a fashion show than camouflage–everything has to match.

I think any leadership that obsessed with matching colors need to admit the military isn’t for them, that they secretly crave an intimate relationship with Christian Dior, and move over to fashion design.

By: Red

Red — Tue, 06 Oct 2009 11:50:09 +0000

I agree, that they will go with UCP-Delata no matter what, cause of the money. Though, if money is the big issue,maybe someone should point out to them that they are willing to spend an obscene amount of money on developing new Class A’s for no other reson than to just change, but are ot willing to spend it where it counts, on the battlefield.

By: Michael Z. Williamson

Michael Z. Williamson — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 02:08:03 +0000

Ryan: See, we’re on exactly the same page. I’ve got 24 years Army, USAF, Active and Guard, and I noticed that same decline. Email me and we can share rants.

By: Ryan

Ryan — Sun, 04 Oct 2009 04:36:39 +0000

I’m an infantry squad leader, and I’ve made it a particular philosophical point of mine to never, ever buy a piece of UCP gear. I’ve managed two deployments so far with my OD Green but I think my days of being the Uniform Renegade are over (damn old pigheaded BDE CSMs). We all know the Army is going to go UCP-D over MultiCam just to save their godawful pattern. Hopefully the Uniform Police use their heads and let us kit out in coyote tan, realizing there is no UCP-D gear for sale and if we cover our torsos in UCP…that just kinda defeats the purpose doesn’t it?

Someday someone will realize what a horrendous mistake this UCP/ACU adventure was. Foliage will still be green, dirt will still be brown, and we can wear what makes sense again. Not to mention the ACU is a sloppy excuse for a soldier’s uniform. You can say what you will about Iraq’s devastation of our tactical edge and the frequent deployments, etc. The downward slope of discipline in the Army today amongst the junior enlisted began the day boots no longer needed to be shined or BDUs starched and pressed.

If you made it to the end of my rant, you’re in a unique fraternity with my peers who hear it about six times daily.

By: Michael Z. Williamson

Michael Z. Williamson — Mon, 21 Sep 2009 13:43:17 +0000

I notice they didn’t compare to the 3 color desert, which I personally found worked very well in Arabia, nor did they compare other patterns, such as ASAT, which is phenomenal in most arid environments and still works well in the woods.