Comments on: An Everyday Carry Belt That Won’t Sag

By: ITS Admin

ITS Admin — Thu, 08 Oct 2009 02:38:11 +0000

Guys,

This thread is getting ugly as Jake mentioned. We’re going to close the article to future comments.

We appreciate all the input and enthusiasm from everyone, it’s good to know that so many people are passionate about gear and loyal to who they buy from.

ITS Tactical

By: Trooper

Trooper — Thu, 08 Oct 2009 02:18:54 +0000

I bought the Jones Tactical Everyday Belt a few months ago and your review of it is right on! I’ve bought several belts etc. from Jones over the last couple of years and have been blown away by the quality, workmanship and excellent customer service. Thanks for keeping us up to date on the best gear out there.

By: Jake Sebens

Jake Sebens — Thu, 08 Oct 2009 01:53:35 +0000

Guys, this is getting ugly, and I feel like we shouldn’t do that to the ITS guys. Can we all agree to take this offline? If not, we should at least move this to a forum or email instead of cluttering their site. I’d be happy to have someone as an impartial judge, if we want to do that.

By: Custom Gear Report

Custom Gear Report — Thu, 08 Oct 2009 01:48:57 +0000

Ok, One more time, you no longer have access to the “Gear Locker” this is where the thread is. So you can check all you want, you can’t see the thread.

This is why I offered access to Bryan to confirm.

I have no reason to make this up. Jake also referenced the thread (he still has access) I suppose this is some sort of conspiracy.

I also find it interesting that you are agreeing that it is ok to rip off someones designs.

By: Jones Tactical

Jones Tactical — Thu, 08 Oct 2009 01:17:16 +0000

Jake, Mike, and all others,
I started my website June 20, 2007, which I already had a small product line established, mainly my 2″ Duty Gun Belt, which it what the 1.5″ belt is patterned after. The same overlap, buckle placement, and Velcro free end attachment. The only thing missing is the Velcro on the loose end.

So if you want to throw around dates and times my 2″ belt has been out longer than Jake’s belt. If it was a copy of his belt it would look like it in every detail, but it doesn’t.

End of discussion.

By: Jones Tactical

Jones Tactical — Thu, 08 Oct 2009 00:58:05 +0000

TackleBerry is right on the money.

Mike, you had better get your facts straight then. I have NEVER commented on Jakes post of his belt on your site, I made sure I looked before replying to you the first time. You might want to do the same thing before you continue on. His thread is in the First Line section of gear making. Do your homework before throwing around useless comments.

By: Tackleberry

Tackleberry — Thu, 08 Oct 2009 00:53:12 +0000

For better or worse, it happens to everybody.

Even the big guys had to start out small.

I understand what you’re saying about being ripped off by a peer, but that is the nature of business, everybody is out to get theirs.

The only thing you can do is make sure you have the best possible product backed by the best guys in your target industry.

By: Custom Gear Report

Custom Gear Report — Thu, 08 Oct 2009 00:46:12 +0000

There is a difference between the large manufacturers and the custom gear community. It’s bad enough when a little guy gets ripped off by a large Mfg but it hurts more when it is done by a peer.

By: Custom Gear Report

Custom Gear Report — Thu, 08 Oct 2009 00:39:16 +0000

I don’t appreciate having my integrity questioned. My facts are straight.

As I stated it is in a restricted section specifically the gear locker section which you no longer have access to.

If Bryan would like I can grant him access so he can confirm.

By: Jake Sebens

Jake Sebens — Thu, 08 Oct 2009 00:38:41 +0000

Mr. Smashy, you’re absolutely right. I spoke with Rich back when the first review of his belt was posted on LF, and based on his explanation, it appeared that it was an innocent coincidence and I gave him the benefit of the doubt. Having looked back at the DIY Tactical thread where I debuted the Ranger belt two years ago, I may have made an error.

We like to think that the people who choose our belts speak to their quality.

http://www.aresgear.com/IMG_0607.html

http://www.aresgear.com/costa08.html