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	<title>Comments on: Navy SEALs Court Martialed for Bloody Lip</title>
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		<title>By: Bryan Black</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bryan Black</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Apr 2010 05:23:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ratfink,

I don&#039;t want to say anything that hasn&#039;t already been said, but from what we&#039;ve heard it had to do with the MA having the loose lips...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ratfink,</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t want to say anything that hasn&#8217;t already been said, but from what we&#8217;ve heard it had to do with the MA having the loose lips&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ratfink</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ratfink</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Apr 2010 05:04:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK i have been involved in this whole thing for some time now and i dont understand it from my point of view. I do not understand how this got out at all when somthing happened with my command it never made it past my OIC and usally he was the one telling me to do it. We did dirty things but it had to be done and its nothing that I loose sleep over all minor things in my eyes. The things that these guys did from what I was told last time I was briefed was there were no marks on the terriorist at all no proof no nothing its just what he is saying all hear say from this guy through a translator. I just dont get it at all in my community we are supposed to get our hands dirty if he had his lip busted so what all members of the spec ops community usally leave in a hurry without eliminating the forces that occupy the area he might have hit it on a door or anything when he was removed from the situation so the team could leave as quickly as possible. I was never questioned on my deployments as to any wrongdoing on my part of my teams part we were never looked at like that I just dont understand how this info got out somwhere somhow the opsec got messed up &quot; loose lips sink ships &quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK i have been involved in this whole thing for some time now and i dont understand it from my point of view. I do not understand how this got out at all when somthing happened with my command it never made it past my OIC and usally he was the one telling me to do it. We did dirty things but it had to be done and its nothing that I loose sleep over all minor things in my eyes. The things that these guys did from what I was told last time I was briefed was there were no marks on the terriorist at all no proof no nothing its just what he is saying all hear say from this guy through a translator. I just dont get it at all in my community we are supposed to get our hands dirty if he had his lip busted so what all members of the spec ops community usally leave in a hurry without eliminating the forces that occupy the area he might have hit it on a door or anything when he was removed from the situation so the team could leave as quickly as possible. I was never questioned on my deployments as to any wrongdoing on my part of my teams part we were never looked at like that I just dont understand how this info got out somwhere somhow the opsec got messed up &#8221; loose lips sink ships &#8220;</p>
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		<title>By: Kristen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kristen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2009 03:21:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is what has become of our country. People that are highly trained get in trouble for something like that. That really makes me feel safe in case something really bad happens we arent going to have any special ops to help out</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is what has become of our country. People that are highly trained get in trouble for something like that. That really makes me feel safe in case something really bad happens we arent going to have any special ops to help out</p>
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		<title>By: Cervantes</title>
		<link>http://www.itstactical.com/centcom/news/navy-seals-court-martialed-for-bloody-lip/comment-page-1/#comment-3406</link>
		<dc:creator>Cervantes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 18:05:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But regardless of the proof in print, our wonderful and totally none biased media will likely forget to mention that bit of information to the masses that are more worried about their football games, parties, TV programs, rims, clothes, sex life.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But regardless of the proof in print, our wonderful and totally none biased media will likely forget to mention that bit of information to the masses that are more worried about their football games, parties, TV programs, rims, clothes, sex life&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Cervantes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cervantes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 18:02:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I have heard other SEALS mention, this incident should never have leaked out to the public. If there was a problem, it should have stayed within the ranks-in the structure. It should never be broadcast that our SEALS did jack to anyone. They operate under a veil of secrecy, doing what must be done. this is equal (IMHO) to the circus event show trial of KSM in New York, not for the protection of human rights but instead for the detriment of our Republics honor, and our Military standing.Just realize what this incident has added to the problem faced by the people on the ground. Did you know that there are new standing orders that do not allow our soldiers to fire on the enemy unless they have rounds ripping around their person. Meaning, the enemy can congregate, fire rounds in the air and basically taunt our troops, without fear of reprisal. Failure to comply with this order will result in disciplinary action.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I have heard other SEALS mention, this incident should never have leaked out to the public. If there was a problem, it should have stayed within the ranks-in the structure. It should never be broadcast that our SEALS did jack to anyone. They operate under a veil of secrecy, doing what must be done. this is equal (IMHO) to the circus event show trial of KSM in New York, not for the protection of human rights but instead for the detriment of our Republics honor, and our Military standing.Just realize what this incident has added to the problem faced by the people on the ground. Did you know that there are new standing orders that do not allow our soldiers to fire on the enemy unless they have rounds ripping around their person. Meaning, the enemy can congregate, fire rounds in the air and basically taunt our troops, without fear of reprisal. Failure to comply with this order will result in disciplinary action.</p>
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		<title>By: Cervantes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cervantes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 17:55:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I recently rebelled against FB for disabling my friends account, cuz she was too social?!?! 
Anyhow, a legal fund has been started in Facebook under the name SOS (Support our SEALS). Only reason I&#039;m coming back to FB, I encourage anyone that sees my post here and has an account with FB, please go to it and join the support group to exonerate the SEALS of this bullshit accusation. I read that the jihadist handbook (of sorts) states that their 8th general order regarding capture is to accuse their captors of any ridiculous abuse knowing damn well that our legal system will step into it neck deep and hurt those that do the dirty work to keep us safe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I recently rebelled against FB for disabling my friends account, cuz she was too social?!?!<br />
Anyhow, a legal fund has been started in Facebook under the name SOS (Support our SEALS). Only reason I&#8217;m coming back to FB, I encourage anyone that sees my post here and has an account with FB, please go to it and join the support group to exonerate the SEALS of this bullshit accusation. I read that the jihadist handbook (of sorts) states that their 8th general order regarding capture is to accuse their captors of any ridiculous abuse knowing damn well that our legal system will step into it neck deep and hurt those that do the dirty work to keep us safe.</p>
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		<title>By: The Saint</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Saint</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 11:22:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My friends.In case you do not know,let me tell you that the country were i was born,Portugal,once divided the (at the time) known world with Spain.For a few reasons more but essencially for the kind of mentality that has put these SEALs in this situation,we are now in many ways a miserable country barely known in the world if it was not for some soccer players.If this is not what you want,be aware...act!!Stand for the men that protect what you have best.And i am counting on you when my own will fail to protect me...and i know they will because in Portugal those SEAls would probably be forced to retire,as anyone can confirm by investigating a bit of my country history.Be afraid,be very afraid to become what portuguese have become.Greetings and good luck for you and those valourous men,from Portugal !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My friends.In case you do not know,let me tell you that the country were i was born,Portugal,once divided the (at the time) known world with Spain.For a few reasons more but essencially for the kind of mentality that has put these SEALs in this situation,we are now in many ways a miserable country barely known in the world if it was not for some soccer players.If this is not what you want,be aware&#8230;act!!Stand for the men that protect what you have best.And i am counting on you when my own will fail to protect me&#8230;and i know they will because in Portugal those SEAls would probably be forced to retire,as anyone can confirm by investigating a bit of my country history.Be afraid,be very afraid to become what portuguese have become.Greetings and good luck for you and those valourous men,from Portugal !</p>
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		<title>By: chuck...</title>
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		<dc:creator>chuck...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 20:37:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This really isn&#039;t about the bloody lip.  It is about a failure of leadership.  If the leadership involved has evidence that the prisoner was abused after he had been subdued and is compliant to his captors orders, then that is punishable.  If the bloody lip was received during the effort to subdue the prisoner or necessary to prevent compromising the mission, then it is justified.  If the former was the case then you should not be reporting it as you have done above, a failure of your role in leadership.  If the latter, then  the team&#039;s leadership (both direct and even more at fault, several layers above it) is clearly at fault for failure to protect the people who are being lead from further attack by our enemies, both in the media and external to the military.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This really isn&#8217;t about the bloody lip.  It is about a failure of leadership.  If the leadership involved has evidence that the prisoner was abused after he had been subdued and is compliant to his captors orders, then that is punishable.  If the bloody lip was received during the effort to subdue the prisoner or necessary to prevent compromising the mission, then it is justified.  If the former was the case then you should not be reporting it as you have done above, a failure of your role in leadership.  If the latter, then  the team&#8217;s leadership (both direct and even more at fault, several layers above it) is clearly at fault for failure to protect the people who are being lead from further attack by our enemies, both in the media and external to the military.</p>
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		<title>By: TheMooKooJoe</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheMooKooJoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 15:07:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Someone in this world has to stand up and be a little mature. They may not have rules and regulations, but we do, we have values man.

I&#039;m not saying that these fine SEALs deserve everything they&#039;re having to deal with, but I just want to point out that we have these rules and regulations so that we don&#039;t become like them.

If anything, the SEALs involved in this case should only have to sit down and be lectured to. Blah&#039;, blah&#039;, blah&#039;. A Court Martial is way over the top here. Way, way over the top.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone in this world has to stand up and be a little mature. They may not have rules and regulations, but we do, we have values man.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying that these fine SEALs deserve everything they&#8217;re having to deal with, but I just want to point out that we have these rules and regulations so that we don&#8217;t become like them.</p>
<p>If anything, the SEALs involved in this case should only have to sit down and be lectured to. Blah&#8217;, blah&#8217;, blah&#8217;. A Court Martial is way over the top here. Way, way over the top.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 02:04:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s remember that feigning abuse is standard procedure now for terrorists/jihadi&#039;s.
Manchester Documents show the truth, especially lesson 17, chapter 3, paragraph 3b http://www.investigativeproject.org/document/id/10</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s remember that feigning abuse is standard procedure now for terrorists/jihadi&#8217;s.<br />
Manchester Documents show the truth, especially lesson 17, chapter 3, paragraph 3b <a href="http://www.investigativeproject.org/document/id/10" rel="nofollow">http://www.investigativeproject.org/document/id/10</a></p>
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