Comments on: DIY Antiseptic Solution for Irrigating Wounds http://www.itstactical.com/2009/12/22/diy-antiseptic-solution-for-irrigating-wounds/ Imminent Threat Solutions Fri, 30 Jul 2010 13:55:10 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: John Carpenter http://www.itstactical.com/2009/12/22/diy-antiseptic-solution-for-irrigating-wounds/comment-page-1/#comment-4332 John Carpenter Thu, 31 Dec 2009 17:55:57 +0000 http://www.itstactical.com/?p=3036#comment-4332 My wife had surgery eariler this year and had a wound that did not completely close. Her doctor told her about this and told her to clean the wound daily with it and cover the wound with 4x4s. The wound healed and closed up nicely. This stuff works! My wife had surgery eariler this year and had a wound that did not completely close. Her doctor told her about this and told her to clean the wound daily with it and cover the wound with 4×4s. The wound healed and closed up nicely. This stuff works!

]]> By: John Q Taxpayer http://www.itstactical.com/2009/12/22/diy-antiseptic-solution-for-irrigating-wounds/comment-page-1/#comment-3897 John Q Taxpayer Wed, 23 Dec 2009 17:35:34 +0000 http://www.itstactical.com/?p=3036#comment-3897 My 2 cents: Dakin's may be great in a SHTF situation, but it is pretty potent stuff. I'm an ICU RN, so I see some nasty wounds, and see the stuff used once every few years (on FILTHY wounds, and I dunno if I've ever seen more than 1/2 strentgh). If you have alternatives available, start there. That being said, the recepie is definitely going into my bag o tricks (along with tourniquets for bleeding (definitely in the last options "compartment"). As fuspar pointed out, it has a limited shelf life. Also note that it is light sensitive (like hydrogen peroxide). My 2 cents: Dakin’s may be great in a SHTF situation, but it is pretty potent stuff. I’m an ICU RN, so I see some nasty wounds, and see the stuff used once every few years (on FILTHY wounds, and I dunno if I’ve ever seen more than 1/2 strentgh). If you have alternatives available, start there. That being said, the recepie is definitely going into my bag o tricks (along with tourniquets for bleeding (definitely in the last options “compartment”).

As fuspar pointed out, it has a limited shelf life. Also note that it is light sensitive (like hydrogen peroxide).

]]> By: kenpojitsu http://www.itstactical.com/2009/12/22/diy-antiseptic-solution-for-irrigating-wounds/comment-page-1/#comment-3875 kenpojitsu Tue, 22 Dec 2009 21:11:41 +0000 http://www.itstactical.com/?p=3036#comment-3875 I think this is a great Idea for "In a Pinch" situations, as stated "In a situation where you might not have a drug store nearby, or commerce has come to a halt during a natural disaster" Good job as usual ITS. Thanks for all the good Info -Brandon- I think this is a great Idea for “In a Pinch” situations, as stated

“In a situation where you might not have a drug store nearby, or commerce has come to a halt during a natural disaster”

Good job as usual ITS. Thanks for all the good Info -Brandon-

]]> By: Norm http://www.itstactical.com/2009/12/22/diy-antiseptic-solution-for-irrigating-wounds/comment-page-1/#comment-3872 Norm Tue, 22 Dec 2009 20:29:24 +0000 http://www.itstactical.com/?p=3036#comment-3872 @fuspar, @Tony: Well, the thing about purchasing sterile solution pre-packaged is that it's being used in a 'disposable' situation. I'm not looking to make and store it for more than a day or two at a time, and in situations that it'd be more practical, I'd rather use what I have around the house to 'use it up' rather than purchasing additional materials. I'm looking at this from the point of view that I'll be purchasing new bleach/baking soda, etc for replacement of current supplies anyhow, so why not use the older stuff so it's not just sitting there going to waste. @code24: I do have some sterile solutions in with the G.O.O.D and emergency kits and would prefer not to have to pull from those stores till it's necessary. Overall, I do agree that store bought is a better solution. But given that the materials aren't currently being used, I'd rather see them go to possibly helping in a dire situation on the trail, in camp, etc, and then getting rid of it if not used, as opposed to just dumping it. @fuspar, @Tony:
Well, the thing about purchasing sterile solution pre-packaged is that it’s being used in a ‘disposable’ situation. I’m not looking to make and store it for more than a day or two at a time, and in situations that it’d be more practical, I’d rather use what I have around the house to ‘use it up’ rather than purchasing additional materials.

I’m looking at this from the point of view that I’ll be purchasing new bleach/baking soda, etc for replacement of current supplies anyhow, so why not use the older stuff so it’s not just sitting there going to waste.

@code24:
I do have some sterile solutions in with the G.O.O.D and emergency kits and would prefer not to have to pull from those stores till it’s necessary.

Overall, I do agree that store bought is a better solution. But given that the materials aren’t currently being used, I’d rather see them go to possibly helping in a dire situation on the trail, in camp, etc, and then getting rid of it if not used, as opposed to just dumping it.

]]> By: code24 http://www.itstactical.com/2009/12/22/diy-antiseptic-solution-for-irrigating-wounds/comment-page-1/#comment-3871 code24 Tue, 22 Dec 2009 19:48:19 +0000 http://www.itstactical.com/?p=3036#comment-3871 @Norm Isn't this more for unexpected events? I think if you are _planning_ on carrying it, wouldn't you do better with stuff that is pre-packaged? That way it's sealed, and you don't have to worry so much about DIY storage. @Norm

Isn’t this more for unexpected events? I think if you are _planning_ on carrying it, wouldn’t you do better with stuff that is pre-packaged? That way it’s sealed, and you don’t have to worry so much about DIY storage.

]]> By: fuspar http://www.itstactical.com/2009/12/22/diy-antiseptic-solution-for-irrigating-wounds/comment-page-1/#comment-3870 fuspar Tue, 22 Dec 2009 19:11:48 +0000 http://www.itstactical.com/?p=3036#comment-3870 doesn't seem like prepping several jars might be practical, unless you live in Juarez I guess: "Throw away any unused portion 48 hours after opening. Unopened jars can be stored for one month after you have prepared them" You can always borrow a couple specimen containers next time you go to the doctor. They usually have a few in the bathroom and they are sterile. doesn’t seem like prepping several jars might be practical, unless you live in Juarez I guess:

“Throw away any unused portion 48 hours after opening. Unopened jars can be
stored for one month after you have prepared them”

You can always borrow a couple specimen containers next time you go to the doctor. They usually have a few in the bathroom and they are sterile.

]]> By: Tony http://www.itstactical.com/2009/12/22/diy-antiseptic-solution-for-irrigating-wounds/comment-page-1/#comment-3869 Tony Tue, 22 Dec 2009 19:09:37 +0000 http://www.itstactical.com/?p=3036#comment-3869 Norm, if you are going to be storing antiseptic solution, why not just buy the stuff? You usually get a container free-of-charge as well. ;) I see the value of this sort of thing to be more during situations when store-bought gear just isn't available. Norm, if you are going to be storing antiseptic solution, why not just buy the stuff? You usually get a container free-of-charge as well. ;)

I see the value of this sort of thing to be more during situations when store-bought gear just isn’t available.

]]> By: Cervantes http://www.itstactical.com/2009/12/22/diy-antiseptic-solution-for-irrigating-wounds/comment-page-1/#comment-3868 Cervantes Tue, 22 Dec 2009 18:07:40 +0000 http://www.itstactical.com/?p=3036#comment-3868 I would try the soda bottle preforms. They can be sterilized. I would just pour the solution over the wound form the preform. You could also pour the solution from the preform into a sterile rubber glove with a hole in a finger and use that for irrigation. I would try the soda bottle preforms. They can be sterilized. I would just pour the solution over the wound form the preform. You could also pour the solution from the preform into a sterile rubber glove with a hole in a finger and use that for irrigation.

]]> By: H.J. Simpson http://www.itstactical.com/2009/12/22/diy-antiseptic-solution-for-irrigating-wounds/comment-page-1/#comment-3866 H.J. Simpson Tue, 22 Dec 2009 17:49:51 +0000 http://www.itstactical.com/?p=3036#comment-3866 Dunno guys, in my Wilderness EMT training we were taught that tapwater or saline are just as good as any other fluid for wound irrigation, at least for fresh wounds. Things change when you have an older, dirty, actively infected wound but resources like http://www.infectioncontrolservices.co.uk/wound_cleansing.htm describe Dakin's (and other chlorinated solutions) as inhibiting healing. Not a cut & dried topic, but with the hassles involved with Dakin's I'd probably just use clean water. Dunno guys, in my Wilderness EMT training we were taught that tapwater or saline are just as good as any other fluid for wound irrigation, at least for fresh wounds. Things change when you have an older, dirty, actively infected wound but resources like http://www.infectioncontrolservices.co.uk/wound_cleansing.htm describe Dakin’s (and other chlorinated solutions) as inhibiting healing.

Not a cut & dried topic, but with the hassles involved with Dakin’s I’d probably just use clean water.

]]> By: Norm http://www.itstactical.com/2009/12/22/diy-antiseptic-solution-for-irrigating-wounds/comment-page-1/#comment-3862 Norm Tue, 22 Dec 2009 15:16:52 +0000 http://www.itstactical.com/?p=3036#comment-3862 This will come VERY handy in the field, as well as situations where power isn't readily available. I'm considering prepping several jars of it for the packing, climbing and camping trips as well. The biggest issue that I'm going to have though is storage for travel. I'm currently thinking of reusing empty saline bottles, the kind for eye rinsing, etc. Anyone have any suggestions on this? This will come VERY handy in the field, as well as situations where power isn’t readily available. I’m considering prepping several jars of it for the packing, climbing and camping trips as well.

The biggest issue that I’m going to have though is storage for travel. I’m currently thinking of reusing empty saline bottles, the kind for eye rinsing, etc.

Anyone have any suggestions on this?

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