Comments on: RSKTKR 1-Day Pistol Class: After Action Report

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By: sigsshooter

sigsshooter — Mon, 01 Mar 2010 16:09:06 +0000

I been teaching Potentially Dangerous and Nefarious skills for quite a few years, and I have found that being all keyed up that someones going to smack you on the back of the head if they walk up to you does not make for a good learning environment. There is a time and a place for that type of learning environment, and my classes rarely give me that type of opportunity :-( But alas I persevere!
Glad you enjoyed it!
“Doc” up!”

By: Aaron

Aaron — Mon, 01 Mar 2010 08:07:46 +0000

Had a good time out there, really liked the relaxed atmosphere. I didn’t expect the prizes at the end of the course, very cool. Also didn’t realize Doc was Sigshooter, You helped me with a shooting problem my sister had a few months back, would have thanked you if I had known.

By: sigsshooter

sigsshooter — Fri, 26 Feb 2010 14:00:24 +0000

Anytime.
And for those that do not want to read all the gobbledy gook on the wikipedia page, basically Hick’s law states that for a stimulus (In this case “Click” instead of “Bang”) every possible response adds time to your response time.
So for example if “Click” gets one response, TRR, my response time is .5 seconds.
If “Click” gets two possible responses, whether it is a FTF or an out of battery, my response time is 1.0
If “Click” gets three possible responses, whether it is a FTF, out of battery or stove pipe, my response time is now 1.5
This is an example for illustrative purposes.
Response time is the time to start the action, so now I have to complete the appropriate action.
TRR will fix 90+% so why not do this as the default?

By: mikejulietpapa

mikejulietpapa — Fri, 26 Feb 2010 13:18:43 +0000

Actually, I found the Hick’s Law on wiki so I got to read it. Very interesting stuff! I agree with what you are saying exactly now. No disrespect taken! I really do appreciate you explaining this to me! If you are ever in the DC/NoVA area, let me know and we’ll go to the range so you can give me some tips!

Oh, if other readers are looking for Hick’s Law, click here: http://bit.ly/aqVTN6

By: sigsshooter

sigsshooter — Fri, 26 Feb 2010 04:37:40 +0000

Well looks like my link did not come through, Wikipedia Hick’s Law for the reason.
I have those videos and they are very good, and yes they might benefit a more experienced shooter but in my eperience that particular skill set belongs to Teir Level shooters. I am not one of those and I rarely see one of those in a class. The guys that can differentiate one malfunction from another and apply the appropriate clearance technique get free ammo and are paid to shoot daily.
You need to realize that every technique shown in a video is not for every student. There are levels of instruction, and trying something before you are ready for it could get you killed. Your time to figure out that malfunction and process which technique to clear it will have you staring at your pistol while I have already TRR’ed and burned through another Magazine.
No disrespect is meant but numerous techniques like that can confuse, therefore slow down all but the best shooters.

By: mikejulietpapa

mikejulietpapa — Fri, 26 Feb 2010 03:49:06 +0000

That’s a good point sigsshooter. I agree that fundamentals are key but I wonder if the different techniques would benefit a more experienced shooter. But I totally see what you are saying. If you ever get a chance, watch those Magpul DVD’s and tell me what you take of it. Thanks again for your input!

By: sigsshooter

sigsshooter — Thu, 25 Feb 2010 23:12:31 +0000

For non tier 1 level shooter learning to fix each individual issue is tough. When teaching higher levels and more dedicated shooters I do teach individual fixes, but at most levels up to and including higher levels then TRR fixes 90% of the problems seen. Diagnosing and applying an individual fix will slow a majority of shooters down that don’t have 1000′s of rounds a week to practice.
Check out Hick’s law for a few reasons I teach this this way.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hick's_law

By: mikejulietpapa

mikejulietpapa — Thu, 25 Feb 2010 22:27:39 +0000

Wow! Sounds like a really amazing class! I wish I could have been there but driving from DC would not have been a lot of fun!

Anyway, I have a comment regarding Tap Rack Bang (or Ready). If any of you have seen the Art of the Dynamic Handgun DVD’s from Magpul then you may have already seen this but they introduce a new process for clearing malfunctions.

Travis & Chris have a time saving technique. You have to watch it to get the full effect but basically what they do is after a malfunction of some kind, they tilt the muzzle to the sky so you can see what kind of malfunction it is. Stovepipe? double feed? etc… Then do a fix based on that. One fix to solve the problem, not a series of procedures.

Example, if it’s a stove pipe, just sweep in one motion from the muzzle to the rear (almost like you are power stroking the slide to chamber a round) and the casing will eject with the new round seated properly.

I’m still very new to real “handgunning” so all of these tips help but I would love to hear one you seasoned grizzlies share your take on the Magpul way.

Either way, I can’t wait to start doing some local classes. I had the Ruger LCP (which is a little more difficult to operate in classes like this) but the new M&P9 was literally just ordered and is now on its way!

By: Cossa24

Cossa24 — Thu, 25 Feb 2010 16:38:36 +0000

Bryan thanks again for putting together this class. There are a lot of moving parts to coordinate such a class. Also thanks to “Doc” and crew for their time and candor during the training. It was very beneficial in a structured but relaxed environment that helped maximize the transfer of applied knowledge to myself.
I also wanted to state, not to take away from your Sig Bryan, that I was shooting the Glock 22 RTF2 which shoot extremely well and the RTF (rough texture finish) proved to be a big help to keep a good grip on the pistol in the rain and mud. There were no malfunctions or jams and often cleaned clips after drills in the nearest puddle to clean out mud in between drills. I received this gun the Tuesday before the class so I was impressed with its performance.
In addition, as a testament to the instruction my cold quals were quite sub-par to the exit quals with draw, double tap and draw, double tap, emergency reload and double tap. Not only did my times dramatically improve with my draw and double tap time was clocked at 1.6s at exit quals (both head shots) but also scored +12 (perfect) on exit quals within a 8″ ring. This is a big deal to me because I always considered myself a descent shot on a center mass target but when you’re under stress and can only rely on training to put 12 shots in a 8″ ring in different movements as Bryan described above, it can only be contributed to your instruction.
After taking this class I can say if you carry open, concealed or only own a gun for home protection you must take this class!
Thanks again guys and can’t wait for the next one!