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Last week, Travis Haley announced the latest weapon light mount to come out of Haley Strategic called the Thorntail Offset. It’s essentially the same principle as their Thorntail mount but the offset design aids in greater ergonomic control and weapon manipulation.
The Thorntail Offset was designed to fit all picatinny rail mounted weapon lights such as the INFORCE WML, SUREFIRE X200, X300, X400, Streamlight, and Insights weapon lights. It can also be mounted at the front and rear of your rifle for back up iron sights. The angle isn’t exactly 45 degrees but it’s close. More of a 1 o’clock offset.
Check out the video below as Travis breaks it down and goes over a few examples and scenarios with the Thorntail Offset mount.
I’ve been running the HSP Thorntail and Dropwing on the 14.5″ AR we built here in the DIY AR-15 Build and my 10.5 LWRC M6A2, respectively. I’m very happy with the way these two mounts have performed and I’m excited to see the new offerings in the line of mounts developed by Haley Strategic and built by Impact Weapons Components.
By utilizing the Thorntail and Dropwing I’m able to keep my support side hand in what I consider to be the most desirable position and simply extend my thumb to depress the tail cap on my surefire weapon lights. Considering my LWRC is a carbine length rail and the 14.5″ is mid-length, it’s impressive that I can run the exact same extension for the weapon lights on both weapon systems.
As you can see in the photos the light extends slightly past the flash hider on the 10.5″ and while it’s running just fine for me, HSP now offers the Thorntail SBR to accommodate short barreled rifles. With so many options now through HSP, there’s bound to be a mount that’s perfect for your setup as well.
It’s great to see the Thorntail Offset, as it fills a void in what’s available on the market today. This is exactly what HSP accomplished with the Thorntail and Dropwing, providing solutions that didn’t exist for mounting weapon lights. The void that the Thorntail Offset fills is the ability to use existing rail mounted pistol weapon lights in a new configuration.
I used to use a YHM Slot Angle Riser on my 10.5″ before the Dropwing came along. I’d mount my Surefire X200 to it attached to the top rail and have to rotate my hand up to access the switch. Now with the Thorntail Offset, that same configuration can “come down to earth” and get mounted in a more accessible position.
If you haven’t been following our friends at Haley Strategic, Travis just released an update on the direction of HSP. This “reboot” reviews the past year as well as plans for next. Stay tuned to the Haley Strategic blog as there is bound to be some great things on the way, including a great new product from ITS and HSP that Travis hints at in the video.
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What is the tan weaponlight that is on that mount. The light that is on the front of the video before you hit play?
Bryan - I had eyed the Dropwing for my LWRC 10.5" as well, but the IWC website says it is NOT compatible with LWRC piston guns... did you have to mod anything to get it to fit (or do you have a LWRC DI gun)?
Been digging the Thorntail idea for a while now. Haley is working out some real solutions.
(Pics aren't working in my Chrome browser...)
Been digging the Thorntail idea for a while now. Haley is working out some real solutions. (Pics aren't working in my Chrome browser...)
Perhaps I did something I wasn't supposed to, but it's been working great for me (it's a piston.) The only issue I see is the light extending further than the flash hider, but the ergonomics of being able to have my support hand in the exact same position on both rifles makes up for that. There's hardly much that sticks past it either. I'll do some digging and find out more for you.
Thanks for the reply - - - i doubt you violated any laws ;-)
I'm guessing its CYA for IWC - someone would surely mount it far enough back to potentially have the mounting screws interfere with the piston/cup/etc. I was more concerned about interaction with the Pusher Screws on the front of the rail system, but it looks like you've cleared them as well. Cool!
As for its extending past the FH - obviously a quality shock-isolated weaponlight (SF Scout being one) + some vaseline on the lens = blaster GTG.
Thanks for the reply - - - i doubt you violated any laws ;-) I'm guessing its CYA for IWC - someone would surely mount it far enough back to potentially have the mounting screws interfere with the piston/cup/etc. I was more concerned about interaction with the Pusher Screws on the front of the rail system, but it looks like you've cleared them as well. Cool! As for its extending past the FH - obviously a quality shock-isolated weaponlight (SF Scout being one) + some vaseline on the lens = blaster GTG.