Posted 10 October 2014 - 06:09 PM
I figured I would open it up and let the experts weigh in on the matter... Please be specific on why not the wave and why what you use is better.
Posted 10 October 2014 - 07:03 PM
I have the wave and a buddy of mine has one of the larger versions. If space isn't a big deal the larger version is pretty nice, but I think the wave is a lot more pocket friendly. I'd highly suggest going to a store that carries a variety of them if one is in your area and check out the differences since all that's really different is size and a few of the tools.
I've bought the added bits and bit extender for mine as well, definitely nice to have especially if you are going to be using it as a bit driver quite a bit.
As for quality I'm extremely happy with my Leathermans (Wave, MUT, and a mini one)
Edited by Geist, 10 October 2014 - 07:04 PM.
Posted 10 October 2014 - 07:57 PM
My main complaint with all of the leatherman products is the way the tools fold into the gripping area of the handles. If you're not wearing gloves this can cause the edges of the handles to dig into your hands. i do like the bit holder.
Now that Schrade doesn't actually MAKE their Tough Tool I like the Gerber multi-pliers. i like the way they open with one hand and the tools fold.
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Posted 10 October 2014 - 08:16 PM
I daily carry a gerber in EOD style, its nice and light and has enough tools that I can get the job done. But close by is always a leatherman for any real work that needs to be done. My advice is really consider weight, I think this gerber is about 10oz which works for me. My surge was just too big and heavy to be something I want to carry all day.
Posted 10 October 2014 - 08:45 PM
I've been EDCing a Leatherman Juice S2 for at least 2 or 3 years and it has worked great for me. It is small and light enough to go unnoticed until needed (at least with the belt pouch, can't speak to pocket carry), and because of it's size I imagine it would look a bit benign by any sheeple who might see you use it. It has a good assortment of normal MT tools despite its small size, including an actual full Philips head screw driver. Surprisingly the one I find myself using quite often are the scissors, which along with the knife blade, is accessible when the MT is closed. The only task the Juice S2 couldn't accomplish so far was cutting through some metal strapping on a pallet.
I have been considering getting a full-sized MT to stay in the truck or my bag and the top ones I'm considering are the Leatherman Charge and SOG PowerAssist. Both have blades accessible from the exterior and a very wide assortment of tools, with the SOG capable of having the tools swapped out so you can tailor it to what you expect to encounter or what you use most often (and how cool is it to have an MT that can cut a penny ; compound leverage yo). The downside to the SOG and Charge would be the price.
Posted 11 October 2014 - 10:20 AM
I've been using the Gerber 600 for 14 years. I have three of them total (including my original). I love them because it's what I know.
That being said, I will consent that Leatherman tools are a better option. I just don't like variety and don't want to have to "relearn" a new tool. Even it it's better.
Posted 11 October 2014 - 10:43 AM
Posted 11 October 2014 - 10:47 AM
I use a SOG, ditched my leatherman after I got it. Love the compound leverage pliers, and the individual tools are well made and swappable. You could even get in some specialist tools not usually found on MTs if you drilled the right size hole.
Posted 11 October 2014 - 11:32 AM
Posted 11 October 2014 - 02:39 PM
I carry a Leatherman Micra on my person and EDC bag. I used to use a Wave. I feel like the Gerber's plier mechanism is stronger and I like the blade locking mechanism better. Plus the single handed plier deployment has frequently been handy.
Posted 12 October 2014 - 01:36 PM
I've carried a SOG PowerAssist B66N for a while. The piano key system used to deploy and retract individual tools is horrible. The exterior straight edge and serrated edge blades are thin and flimsy. The locking mechanism for the aforementioned blades are also sketchy and I would never trust that thing in my pocket without some kind of sheath. The pliers snapped in half when I attempted to cut a penny in half for demonstration in accordance with other online videos depicting the same demonstrative endeavors. The thumb studs on each blade fell off. Consider, however, that SOG repaired and replaced the parts for free minus the shipping. The most annoying aspect in my opinion is the fact that you have to completely deploy the pliers in order to access the tools, in which you are required to fold open the protective metal flap, close the flap, flip the tool to retract the pliers, then you're cleared hot to employ. Depending on the area of "tech" that you're getting into, I would not recommend the PowerAssist for mechanical or industrial applications.
I'm also looking into purchasing a Leatherman Wave. I have heard nothing but good things about it.
Posted 12 October 2014 - 05:39 PM
I carry the Leatherman Wave with me in by pack every day. I have tried Gerber tools and tried SOG tools and though they were both good, they just were not Leatherman good. They did not feel as good or seemingly function as well to me, now keep in mind that I was already a Leatherman fan at that point, so I was biased. I have tried a couple other Leatherman tools and though I like them all, I always go back to the Wave, it is affordable and has everything I need. At some point I would like to get a MUT to add to my carrier, but that would be more for weapons maintenance and less for general utility.
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Posted 12 October 2014 - 07:00 PM
The blade steel is basically the European version of 440 a. Not a great edge holder but who cares it's a back up to my other knives. The flared Philips head driver fits a wide variety of screw sizes and is nice and long. The price tag on many sites and stores is steep but it can be found quite cheap. I got mine for about $ 70
Posted 18 October 2014 - 06:24 PM
There are many multitools out there but very few that are actually useful. Wave is a superior tool and very useful. Had one for about 6-7 years before I tried something even better. If I had to pick one tool to use it would be a Charge. Why? Better titanium handles that are much more comfortable if you do a lot of plier work. It is also a tad bigger so it fits better in my hand.
There are other models to consider as well.
-OHT is a nice one handed opening tool with all the functions accessible from the outside when the tool is closed and it has a spring loaded pliers which makes your life easier. But it is a big tool.
-Surge is also a great tool. It is like Wave on steroids. it is big so it can handle bigger jobs.
In the end handle stuff if you can. I grew up with Gerbers and I liked them but once I saw Wave there was no going back. I recently ordered also one of the SOGs with assisted blade opening. Not a big fan from the get go. I threw it into my car kit bag and it rides there. Would have never bought it if I knew that pliers were uncomfortable and assisted blade even if works has a weird lock and is hard to fold.
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