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#21 Scuba CN

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Posted 28 December 2015 - 11:52 PM

Damn you guys; I threw some 3x5 file cards together with a BINDER CLIP ( :moon:  ) and already have the entire first card filled with notes.

 

 

... Molskine are HORRIBLE from a MIL/LEO/firearms stand point, but the books are great ...

 

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Not to side-track but could you enlighten me as to why Moleskine is horrible from a MIL/LEO/firearms stand point? Is it because LEO notes are discoverable or is Moleskine anti-gun? It's time for me to buy a 2016 day/weekly planner and I wouldn't mind switching to another brand.



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Posted 04 January 2016 - 01:04 PM

Damn you guys; I threw some 3x5 file cards together with a BINDER CLIP ( :moon:  ) and already have the entire first card filled with notes.

 

 

 

Not to side-track but could you enlighten me as to why Moleskine is horrible from a MIL/LEO/firearms stand point? Is it because LEO notes are discoverable or is Moleskine anti-gun? It's time for me to buy a 2016 day/weekly planner and I wouldn't mind switching to another brand.

 

Moleskine refuses to work with Firearm or Defense companies to do branded or imprinted notebooks. Last time i heard that a firearms company asked they sent them a pretty snarky letter. My company (a large-ish military manufacturer) had to use Danner notebooks when we wanted imprinted notebooks. 

 

Again, i do use them just because i haven't found a brand that makes a book that had quad rule, hard bound, 5.5x8.5 notebooks that have more than 50 pages. 

 

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Posted 04 January 2016 - 02:21 PM

Moleskine refuses to work with Firearm or Defense companies to do branded or imprinted notebooks. Last time i heard that a firearms company asked they sent them a pretty snarky letter. My company (a large-ish military manufacturer) had to use Danner notebooks when we wanted imprinted notebooks. 

 

Again, i do use them just because i haven't found a brand that makes a book that had quad rule, hard bound, 5.5x8.5 notebooks that have more than 50 pages. 

 

La'

 

I didn't know this. Granted, I hadn't heard of Moleskine until this thread either, but it's interesting how a preppy notebook manufacturer won't play nice with police/defense industry.


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Posted 04 January 2016 - 03:17 PM

here's the exact wording, and the original post from Soldier Systems.

 

http://soldiersystem.../wtf-moleskine/

 

"Thank you for your request but currently Moleskine Brand Guidelines prevent us from working with any weapon companies. Good luck and have a great day.

Sincerely,
XXXXX
Moleskine America, Inc.
210 eleventh avenue, suite 1004
new york, ny 10001
www.moleskine.com"

 

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Posted 04 January 2016 - 03:38 PM

more on Moleskine

 

http://soldiersystem.../tag/moleskine/

 

Turns out, according to their brand guidelines, they not only don’t work with firearms companies but also, “Pornographers, Extreme Political Organizations, Religious Organizations, or the Defense Industry.”

 

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Posted 05 January 2016 - 06:09 AM

So Moleskine sucks... Vote with your wallet gentlemen...


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Posted 05 January 2016 - 08:27 AM

Moleskin sucks anyway for use in emergency services.  I use Rite In The Rain notebooks to write all of my patient contact notes so that I can give a good report to the nurse or doctor when I get them to the hospital.  It is better to use a notebook in my case instead of writing on a medical glove because the glove has a much higher chance of becoming contaminated.  Rite in the rain is obviously resistant to water or other fluids, moleskin is not.



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Posted 05 January 2016 - 08:31 AM

my only problem with RitR is their small notebooks are spiral bound. those tend to get bent. their only bound notebooks i've seen are yellow....

 

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Posted 05 January 2016 - 09:24 AM

my only problem with RitR is their small notebooks are spiral bound. those tend to get bent. their only bound notebooks i've seen are yellow....

 

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Maybe at some point they were all yellow, but they have lots of options these days.

 

Memo Book

Top Bound

Field Flex

Big Notebooks


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Posted 05 January 2016 - 09:39 AM

Maybe at some point they were all yellow, but they have lots of options these days.

 

Memo Book

Top Bound

Field Flex

Big Notebooks

 

Damn It Mighty, there goes my paycheck!!

 

i guess we can add Notebook Whoring to the list of ITS "Side Effects"

 

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Posted 06 January 2016 - 12:32 AM

Moleskine refuses to work with Firearm or Defense companies to do branded or imprinted notebooks. Last time i heard that a firearms company asked they sent them a pretty snarky letter. My company (a large-ish military manufacturer) had to use Danner notebooks when we wanted imprinted notebooks. 

 

Again, i do use them just because i haven't found a brand that makes a book that had quad rule, hard bound, 5.5x8.5 notebooks that have more than 50 pages. 

 

La'

 

Good to know; looks like all my future day planners will be Rhodia, Leuchtturm or anyone else. As for notebooks I might eventually give Field Notes a try.



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Posted 07 January 2016 - 10:58 AM

Since I work in computers I just use my phone for notes. I use evernote but am considering switching to onenote. I have notes on a lot of stuff and am just using the free service right now. And I never really liked Moleskin because they always ended up being stolen by friends. So I always just used the cheap notebooks from all sizes.



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Posted 11 January 2016 - 09:19 PM

I have used small spiral notebooks, but those were a bit bulky.  Although cheap.  I have gone to using small Moleskine notebooks.  I get em at target in packs of 3 for like $10.00.  They hold up well, have perforated pages.  



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Posted 15 January 2016 - 11:00 PM

Didn't know that about Moleskine.  Might just go back to my cheapo mini spiral notebooks.  At least they come in cool colors.



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Posted 16 January 2016 - 11:51 PM

50-Sheet Mini Composition Notebook (3 Pack)

 

You can pick these up @ Dollar Tree for a buck...and that's darn near impossible to beat. These hold up surprisingly well for the price, and I keep one in my back pocket at all times. Unless you need those fancy waterproof edition Field Notes or RitR, might wanna check your local store for these.


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Posted 17 January 2016 - 02:22 AM

That's what I like. Cheap, simple, and effective. I use the spiral kind, but may grab these for future use.

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Posted 26 January 2016 - 07:58 AM

Lame. I was probably going to buy something from moleskin when my current pad crapped out. I was browsing through some recently.

Definitely won't be doing that now.

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Posted 10 February 2016 - 08:08 AM

Rite in the Rain 3x5 index cards.  The Grey ones. 



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Posted 15 May 2017 - 05:15 PM

Or, more specifically, the index card kit. Holds 25 cards inside, 2 outside where you can write on them easily, and has an elastic loop to hold a space pen or a pencil. Works great for me, as I use every inch of space on a notepad page (or index card) before turning it over.

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Posted 16 May 2017 - 11:02 AM

I've been using Field Notes. I really like them and they seem to hold up well. Recently I added a Surveyors Notebook cover from Holtz Leather. I love this setup. Sometimes I even keep a Word. Notebook in there for lists and other random notes. I use the FN mainly for journaling, thoughts, and other musings. However, it's always evolving. This article has a great history of them and why to use them. Also as a bonus, at the beginning, he has unkind words for Moleskine:
http://www.artofmanl...ocket-notebook/
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