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Prepaid debit cards are sold as gift cards at many stores and offered by Visa, Mastercard and American Express. These cards are purchasable with cash, which enables them to be used for anonymous, cash-like digital payments.
Once purchased the cards can be used like normal debit or credit cards, but to be used online, they must be registered on a Website. Purchasing goods with these cards doesn’t make much sense, since any physical item will require a real shipping address, but it’s an attractive option for paying for services. One could use an anonymous debit card to purchase VPN and prepaid cell phone services, both of which will contribute to preserving the privacy of your electronic communications.
When purchasing a prepaid card for anonymous use, it’s important to avoid cards which are reloadable. The reloadable cards usually involve actual credit and, as such, require a social security number to be activated. Non-reloadable cards only require a name and address. This information is never verified. It is only used in Address Verification System checks, which is the system that merchants use to verify that a person using a card to make an online purchase, is in fact the card owner. As long as the name and address you enter while registering the card is the same that you provide the merchant, the AVS check will pass.
Visa, Mastercard, and American Express prepaid cards can be purchased at most grocery and drug stores. These stores will usually have a rack somewhere with a wide selection of store-specific gift cards, for places such as Amazon and iTunes, as well as calling cards, prepaid cell-phone cards and reloadable debit cards. The non-reloadable prepaid cards that you’re looking for will be somewhere on the same rack. They’ll be labeled as gift cards and tend to only be available in fixed amounts.
The nation-wide chain of Simon Malls all offer gift cards that can be purchased in any dollar amount from $20 to $500. You can choose between American Express and Visa cards. These gift cards are no different from the prepaid Visa and American Express cards available at your local grocery store, save for the Simon logo.
Simon claims that American Express cards do not need to be registered for online use. I’ve had trouble with American Express cards, both registered and un-registered and tend to avoid them now. I’ve never had problems with Visa or Mastercard cards at any merchant.
I purchase both types of cards. I’ve always paid with cash and I have never been asked for any identification.
The Simon gift cards require a $2.95 activation fee at the time of purchase, which is regardless of the value that you place on the card.
The un-branded cards also require an activation fee at the time of purchase. This varies based on the fixed-amount of the card that you’re purchasing. It tends to be somewhere between $3.95 and $6.95. The fees are the same for Visa, Mastercard and American Express.
Some of the cards will expire after a period of years and some of them will have monthly fees deducted for inactivity after the first year. These terms will vary depending on the card that you choose, but they tend to be irrelevant. You are not purchasing the card as a long-term value store. You are purchasing the card to use it and it will likely be depleted within a couple months, at which point you can go buy another one.
Prepaid debit cards do have their limitations.
- They cannot be used to withdraw cash at ATMs.
- They cannot be used for subscription services with recurring billing.
- They can only be used with US merchants.
The first limitation doesn’t affect us, since we’re discussing using these cards online. The second limitation may impact your intended use, but despite the card’s claimed limitation, I have successfully used them to pay recurring charges. I imagine that this depends on how the merchant does their billing.
The cards can be used to fund a new PayPal account, which allows us to avoid the final limitation, if the foreign merchant accepts PayPal. You can also sign up for subscriptions with a PayPal account funded by an anonymous debit card to address the second limitation.
Before they can used online, the anonymous debit cards must be registered so that they are able to pass AVS checks. Registration of the card can be completed anonymously through Tor. Tor is an implementation of onion routing, which is a technique used to anonymize digital communications by bouncing the packets through multiple nodes in the network. Before leaving your computer each packet is encrypted multiple times, such that each node in the Tor network can remove only one layer — like peeling off the outer layer of an onion. This prevents any of the nodes on the network from knowing both the origin and destination of the packet. Every node on the network, with the exception of the final exit node, is also prevented from reading the contents of the packet. If the packet was encrypted before being handed to Tor (such as with common web communications using the TLS/SSL protocol), the exit node will also be unable to read its contents.
The easiest way to use Tor is by downloading the Tor Browser Bundle. This is a version of Mozilla Firefox that has been tweaked for privacy, and communicates solely though Tor. The Tor Browser is available for Linux, OS X and Windows. It is simply a binary that needs to be extracted and run. It doesn’t require installation or any configuration.
Each prepaid card comes with activation instructions that include the URL of the registration page. After visiting this registration page in the Tor Browser, you’ll be asked to enter a name, address and phone number. Remember that this address will only be used for AVS checks. No other verification will be done. Whatever name and address you use, make a note of it so that you can enter the correct billing information when using the card.
After the card has been registered it’s ready to use. Any online use of the card should also be done through the Tor network to preserve your anonymity. If you decide to use the card with a PayPal account, register a new PayPal account through Tor.
Most online purchases will require an email address. Since you’re already in the Tor Browser, head over to Tor Mail and sign up for a new address to use with the card. If you want a quick disposable email address, try Mailinator.
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I went to a CVS with cash and I was required to give my id to scan for the greendot card, I then purchased a 'one vanilla' prepaid visa card (like a gift card), but the clerk told me anything over $200 required an ID. So if I wanted to pay a large bill with it, it would be very cumbersome. Anyone know if different retailers have different requirements or a better way to do this (ie use cash to pay online bills without tracing it to me personally). Thanks
i dont think you can use a prepaid/gift card to open a paypal account anymore...unless you get the greendot card, which requires all your info name-address- and-social secury number...
i dont you can use a prepaid/gift card to open a paypal account any7more...unless you get the grrendot card, which requires all your info name address andsocial secury number...
I bought a pre-paid card at QFC last week. Went to use it on a site that did recurring billing. I got turnned down. Any advice on how I can do this ?
If I have an gift card from American Express or Visa purchased with a credit card that is now reported stolen or lost will my gift card be affected or traced?
@didi12 Thank you, Edward Snowden. America has absolutely no right to have knowledge of any nefarious activity around the world.
@didi12 Actually is was developed by the US naval intelligence. but TOR is/has been compromised. No one in the know relies on it.
Does your limitations section refers to prepaid debit cards or prepaid gift cards? You need to distinguish more between prepaid Visa debit and prepaid Visa gift cards. Open loop Visa gift cards can be used anywhere that Visa is accepted, anywhere in the world. Amex is the one that can be used only in the US and Puerto Rico/ US Virgin Islands
Open loop Visa gift cards can be used anywhere that Visa is accepted, anywhere in the world. Amex is the one that can be used only in the US and Puerto Rico/ US Virgin Islands
I have an old paypal account in the UK. I moved to the US 8 years ago. A friend of mine sent money to my old paypal account. To my astonishment the account was still open and had £274.70 in the account. I tried to send a payment to my wife's US paypal account. It then said I needed to connect a credit card to the account before I could send money.
Not gonna happen since it will only let me attach a card to the account that has my old UK street address.
Can I purchase a Simon's card and use my old address to connect my paypal account so i can release/send these funds to my wife's account?
Can an anonymous debit card have refunds issued it? If I use the card at a retail location and I return the item, can they put the refund on the card? Is there a limit to the dollar amount of the refund?
@Samuelfagan Assuming you guys are living in the United States: Here is my recommendation: Go to your favorite large department store, (before the Customer Service department closes, usually around 7:00 to 8:00 PM), take the anonymous prepaid card
with you and ask the clerk to speak to the manager. (Do not ask the clerk behind the
counter, because most likely the store clerk does not know the answer to your questions
and is very likely give you misinformation, unlessl you speak to a clerk who knows the.
store policies. DO NOT TAKE CHANCES WITH THE CLERKS BEHIND THE COUNTER.
Anyway, if the general manager is not available, ask to speak to the Assistant Manger.
Tell him or her that you have an a anonymous debit card, and that you would like
to buy some merchandise at their store (Now you're using Reverse Psychology and
you can be sure the Manager (or Assistant Manager) will have your full attention at that
point in time. After indicating you want to buy some merchandise from the store, let
the manager know you have some concerns (or questions) about your anonymous
debit card, before you pay for your items.
The Manager or Assistant manager of the retail store is your best bet for receiving
correct advice about any questionable issues involving paying for merchandise.
If you do not live in the United States, I assume my advice would still apply to overseas
retail locations. You will find most retail operations are willing to work with you, as a buyer.
If you are an English-only-speaking person, be sure to ask the store employee, or
anyone willing to help you--IF THEY SPEAK ENGLISH. You will save yourself a lot
time and regret for wasting your time and the other person's time, without
accomplishing your objectives..
Finally, if you want to purchase merchandise on line, but need to know their refund
policy, etc.--you need to send the company an email with your questions. You can find
the store's support email, usually on their front-facing web page, by clicking "Contact
Us" For some reason most "Contact Us" links are posted at the bottom of the company's
web page landing.
P.S. I regret that I am not a member of this forum at this time. I just wanted to pass on
some of my experiences / advice in this regard.
@Samuelfagan I would like to know the same thing.
IS there a way to make anonymous purchases over 10K bucks without getting a knock on your door later on with someone asking where the money came from?
Can you use these prepaid cards to get around US restricted paywalls - like iTunes, Nintendo eShop etc?
Didn't the Nut Suckers Agency find a way to circumvent Tor? I thought I read something about an exploit in the Firefox browser that they take advantage of.
@NoRemorse Unfortunately Tor is a product of US intelligence agencies.
Purchased a pre paid Paypal gift card today, for use with an online Paypal account. After visiting the Paypal site I learned that the site requires name, address, date of birth and social security number information for verification with an unspecified national database before the card can be used. My intent was to be able to use the paypal gift card to load my online Paypal account and subsequently purchase anonymously online. Any thoughts, comments or experience with this would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
@Jonas Broune Get a prepaid card instead, but not a reloadable one. They will bug you for verification but you can still pay and use it without verifying.
If you're really trying to be anonymous, can't they track to the place where the card was purchased?
If you're really trying to be anonymous, can't they track to the place where the card was purchased?
@JacksonTaylor>> If they're really adamant about finding who it is, granted they can track the card back to the store. Thanks to the initial activation, they plausibly could pinpoint the POS register that you bought it, this being dependent on software / tracking of the store. There will be a camera (always is) and have your face if they succeed.
But honestly, the manpower behind it requires too much money if you're dodging like $400 in VPS or whatever. And with that, VPS guys won't pursue unless you open 30 accounts at the same time, same method of card payments, etc.. That example is dodging $12000, that's sizable, and they might look for you.
Being that I am in the hosting business (dedi's), and funnily enough, VPS came up in a meeting last week. This was talked about, and the network engineer team and legal business end agreed on a $2500 and $10000 dodge limits. Under $2500 is IP trace and bark at the service provider, mid-range is grab some personal info and simple suit, over $10000 is an involved legal suit. Keep in mind that this company is under $10 million worth. Not very big, and can't do everything. But, there is some number that our favorite 3-letter agency would love to see someone on their radar. Unfortunately, I don't have that number, but I'd take a hearty stab and say it is above $10000.
All in all, if you're really that paranoid for anonymity, get someone off the street to help you out. You might want to bump another $10 for a $100 card or something. It'll eliminate that weak point of you actually being in that store.
@Sara oh of course. they can be bought at any grocery store or gas station same place you get like gift cards to restaurants or shops. Im pretty sure those payday lender places like Money Mart sell them too
Just an add on thought to using these online. If you order something to be shipped by fedex, there is an option called hold at location. Once the item ships you go on the fedex website, enter the tracking number and select the hold at location option. You then pick a convenient pick up location.
Doing this you still have to use your name since Fedex will check ID for delivery, but you can use a completely bogus address as long as said bogus address matches the bogus address you register the card with. This severely complicates the paper trail.
Just an add on thought to using these online. If you order something to be shipped by fedex, there is an option called hold at location. Once the item ships you go on the fedex website, enter the tracking number and select the hold at location option. You then pick a convenient pick up location. Doing this you still have to use your name since Fedex will check ID for delivery, but you can use a completely bogus address as long as said bogus address matches the bogus address you register the card with. This severely complicates the paper trail.
Hint for 'some'--if one is so inclined--pay for the card in cash; do not register it; purchase services or goods but do not have it shipped and it is just like cash. If, for example, Wal Mart turned over all info, and every card sold was traced to all buyers but yours, they still wouldn't know who you are (remember you paid with it in cash). If one is up to nefarious ways, wear a ball cap, etc. Obviously, no on line stuff as it would have to be shipped.
I got two AmEx gift cards for my birthday and actually had no issues using them on Amazon - didn't have to register or activate the card at all, they just worked.
I've been accumulating Visa and MC gift cards as credit card rewards but I'm sure even though they don't have my name on them that they're linked somewhere in a database back to me.
I got two AmEx gift cards for my birthday and actually had no issues using them on Amazon - didn't have to register or activate the card at all, they just worked. I've been accumulating Visa and MC gift cards as credit card rewards but I'm sure even though they don't have my name on them that they're linked somewhere in a database back to me.
If you use Vanilla Visa gift cards, the registration consists solely of entering a zip code. Best to use the one where you plan to ship. Also, prepaid gift cards can be used with foreign vendors if they use PayPal, but not directly. Choose the PayPal for non-members option for best results.
In my experience, some cards must be registered to use on line but I have used others that require no registration. The first commenter makes a good point and is one of the reasons I use them from time-to-time. Generally, cards I have purchased at Wal Mart, registered or not, are only good with U.S. merchants. I too, refrain from the A.E. card.
I'm alittle confused... So do we register the card with a "fake" billing address and just replicate that billing address when purchasing online, but use a "real" shipping address?
Nice article. The only thing which strikes me is that the store the cards are purchased at can probably be traced by the card's individual number. If subpoena'd, they'd need to turn over their video footage, if they had it. So even if you managed to hide your purchase of whatever, if the seller's records were ever searched, the numbers of all accounts could be tracked down - possibly to you. Maybe better to purchase from a low rent bodega while wearing a hoodie or something.
This is a great suggestion. I would add, however, that there is one reason to use a prepaid debit card if you are purchasing goods online-- and that is that your actual bank credit or debit cards are not used, so if there is fraud or an issue with security on the vendor's website, there's an additional layer of protection, especially if you use a card with only the amount you'll be paying for that particular purchase.