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#1 farcyde07gti

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Posted 18 January 2015 - 10:26 PM

I would like some subjective or objective input on EDC, CC, and regular 5 pocket jeans.  If you wear jeans are you having to leave something at home you would ordinarily carry?  How do you resolve the problem of too few pockets?  Have you said 'heck with it' and switched to only the 21-pocket cargo pants that are popular?

 

 


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Posted 19 January 2015 - 01:38 AM

Also, how do you politely rebuff come ons from overweight trailer queens when wearing three wolf moon t-shirts?  Just curious.



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Posted 19 January 2015 - 01:45 AM

I've found that wearing jeans has caused me to reevaluate each item that I would like to carry, or would normally carry with cargo pants, to determine the most needed items and what useful stuff is used less often. I also try to minimize the size of the things that I carry in my pockets to reduce discomfort. As it stands, my jeans EDC consists of my wallet (really just a little card holder with license and a couple credit cards), my money clip, handkerchief, LD10 flashlight, pocket knife, and keys. I do have another light and multitool on my belt, and additional useful items such as notepad and pen, earplugs, extra batteries, etc., go in my shoulder bag. The bag is essentially with me whenever I leave the house so I generally have more stuff with me every day than I actually need anyway. The colder weather allows even more options depending on how many pockets your jacket has.

 

As for the second part, so far I've not yet had to worry about overweight trailer queens coming after me, probably because none of my shirts have visible logos, designs, pictures, etc. that would attract such unsavory attention ;)



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Posted 19 January 2015 - 01:51 AM

I also have a rotating kit of carry items for different pants but, in a perfect world, I would have the same things in the same place every day all day.  That's the serious part.

 

The other part is not serious, but seriously if you go to wal-mart with a wolf shirt you're going to pick up some heifers especially if you have bacon in your cart.  I love bacon.  Dang.



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Posted 19 January 2015 - 05:01 AM


I would like some subjective or objective input on EDC, CC, and regular 5 pocket jeans. If you wear jeans are you having to leave something at home you would ordinarily carry? How do you resolve the problem of too few pockets? Have you said 'heck with it' and switched to only the 21-pocket cargo pants that are popular?


I have only recently (Christmas Holiday) moved back to jeans after 5plus years of cargo pants. It has been quite the challenge. I am looking into carrying 1flexcuff rubber banded to tourniquet somewhere. What ive got going now, Extra mag in pouch on belt (weak side). Weapon owb holster strong side. Credentials left front. Wallet and challenge coin right front. Non fighting knife (spyderco assist) rear pocket. Photon light on keychain with asp keydefender as non leathal defense. So, wearing standard blue jeans and baggy button up untucked shirt instead of cargo pants full of crap i really dont need as edc. I like it so far. However i carry a bookbag with first aid/trauma kit with two extra tourniquets , ipad, some basic bug out items, 2 sets Rx sunglasses in cases, emergency clif bar, 4 extra mags, gerber tool, usb drive, pen and green log book... And A few other items. Hope this helps.
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Posted 19 January 2015 - 06:34 AM

I switched back to jeans. i bought a pair of these:

 

http://www.marks.com...-dungaree-29312

 

look like jeans, few extra pockets on each side and tough, and they just look like working pants rather than tactical ninja pants.

 

i still wear 511 pants at the range or if teaching recruits etc, but trying something new.

 

as for three moon t-shirts....i have lost count how many bad guys i have arrested with said attire :-) or the "Canadian Tuxedo"

 



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Posted 19 January 2015 - 06:48 AM

I gave up on jeans as something I wear every day a long time ago. Now I only wear them if I need to dress up a bit.

They're just not comfortable, suck big time when wet, and there's the whole not enough pockets thing.
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Posted 19 January 2015 - 07:29 AM

I wear jeans. They blend in much better than tac pants.

Left pocket has my phone. Right pocket has keys and knife. Keychain has mini duct tape roll. Wallet in back right pocket. Gun and 2 spare mags on belt. Flashlight in back left pocket.

Only thing I'd probably add if I had cargo pockets is a tq

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Posted 19 January 2015 - 08:35 AM

Also, how do you politely rebuff come ons from overweight trailer queens when wearing three wolf moon t-shirts?  Just curious.

Any holes a goal?

 

My problem with jeans is that in order to carry the same kit I need to move everything around, while not a huge deal it is annoying to reach for my multi tool and realize it has moved to my back left belt instead of my right side cargo pocket. There is also the problem of my wallet, I despise having it in my back pocket and cant find a pair of jeans where it is comfortable and fits in the front pocket. They also wear so fast compared to my other pants and dont work as well in the cold/rain. So for those reasons I all but gave up on jeans and just adopted some TAD pants that dont look overly tacticool, better support my EDC, and are very comfortable in any weather.



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Posted 19 January 2015 - 08:54 AM

I can solve both problems for you with one simple suggestion. Wear a fanny pack. It’ll more than make up for the missing cargo pockets and I’m pretty sure even plus-size, ladies-of-the-manor stopped thinking fanny packs are acceptable…

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Really though, EDC in jeans isn’t bad. But as the others have said, you have to be selective on what you carry. I rarely wear anything but jeans (and cargo shorts in the summer) outside of work. Thankfully, men’s jeans have decent pockets and aren’t designed to be painted on. (I should note here, I don’t consider skinny jeans “men’s” regardless of who wears them) The only thing I haven’t figured out how to carry, that I would really like to, is a tourniquet. Even then, if I’m out with my family or for work, I have a bag with me that holds my little First Aid pouch.

 

What I actually carry on me with jeans

Around my waist:  Belt, S&W Shield in an IWB holster, handcuff key, small Gerber knife

In my jacket:  Spare mag (this will go on my belt once my mag pouch arrives)

Left Front Pocket:  Phone, flashlight clipped to pocket (L3 Illumination L10C or Preon P1)

Right Front Pocket:  Key ring (car key, 2” carabiner, USB drive, Gerber Shard), Space pen, pedometer, knife clipped to pocket

Right Rear Pocket   Wallet (cash, cards, bandaids, E&E tools)

Left Rear Pocket   Empty (though, as I’m thinking about it, I may put a SWAT-T tourniquet in there)

 

This is more than enough to get me (and my family, if necessary) back to my car which is much better equipped. 

 

 

P.S.  I don't know why the guy had to take off his shirt to model the fanny pack, but I thought it did add to the overall ensemble.


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Posted 19 January 2015 - 08:59 AM

And I just scrolled through the responses and saw where my post ended up. That picture is awful. I'm sorry. Heh heh heh... :evil:


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Posted 19 January 2015 - 09:24 AM

Jeans aren't bad, I had gone several years without jeans before my wife made me get some because they were on sale. Well, I made a mistake, I bought jeans because my wife liked the way they make my butt look (like wranglers but with a levi's tag), not because of comfort. They aren't bad when you're standing, but they are significantly uncomfortable when seated. In any case here's what I carry.

 

FL: pen, lighter, phone

FR: wallet, knife, keys

RR: empty

RL: Small multi-tool, AAA flashlight, bogota picks.

IWB: pistol, spare mag


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Posted 19 January 2015 - 01:21 PM

I also have a rotating kit of carry items for different pants but, in a perfect world, I would have the same things in the same place every day all day.  That's the serious part.

 

The other part is not serious, but seriously if you go to wal-mart with a wolf shirt you're going to pick up some heifers especially if you have bacon in your cart.  I love bacon.  Dang.

Easiest way for us to answer would be to post what you carry. What capabilities are you looking to keep?

 

As for me:

FL Creds/Wallet, AA size flashlight

FR Phone, Knife (alox minichamp sak in watch pocket)

RL Keys on biner, change, gum and burts bees lip balm

RR Empty / med kit if no bag


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Posted 19 January 2015 - 01:53 PM

What is it about jeans you like so much? If it's personal preference, I get it.

If you just don't want the tactical look, there are plenty of cargo pants that don't. Personally, I wear Wranglers cargo pants. They blend in well with all the hippy and hillbilly types where I live. $19 at Walmart. Warm enough in the winter and cool enough in the summer. Loose enough that I can wear an under layer if it drops below freezing. And they dry quick too.

Just a thought.
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Posted 19 January 2015 - 02:44 PM

pira - That's the point primarily is that I'm trying to get away from overtly tactical looking pants for casual social settings.  If I expect to need the room or if the weather is iffy I cycle back to nyco or some sort of fast drying cargo pant.  I guess about the most low profile of those would be vertx lightweight.

 

When I do wear jeans here is what I carry with one big challenge marked *.

 

Keys including asp key defender, silver dollar and cuff key sugru'd together, PT1L clipped to same pocket

Lighter, gerber dime, and zt350 clipped to same pocket

Wallet

Cell phone

Pistol on one side and spare mag (horizontal) on other side on belt

*SOFT-W,Zpack gauze, gloves in pouch on belt or in ankle carry wrap

 

The mini trauma kit is a challenge to carry with jeans.  Any real estate on my belt that is available is not comfortable when I'm in the car or seated.  The ankle carry wrap seemed like a good idea until I tried it and remembered I hated ankle holsters and this feels about the same.  For cargo pants the trauma kit just drops in a cargo pocket and gtg.

 

Thanks for the input.  I was curious if anyone else had trouble and how they addressed it.



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Posted 19 January 2015 - 03:49 PM

I've been checking out the new jeans from TAD (Intercept PD) and the new offering from S&S Precision (757 Performance Jean or something like that). Both have additional pockets hidden behind the back pockets and in the front pockets Bringing the pocket total to around 8 or 9. Both are US made and I know the TAD ones are made from US produced denim. HOWEVER, they both retail for right around $130. I like jeans, they blend just about anywhere, from dinner to the range, but I haven't forked over the money yet for either pair. Doesn't help that TAD is out of stock all the time and S&S isn't shipping theirs yet.  

 

I don't like cargo pants or shorts personally. Normally I wear Mountain Khakis or Duluth Trading Co. jeans with Vertx thrown in every now and then. The TAD Spartans and Intercept PD have really caught my eye lately especially since they're US made. 



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Posted 19 January 2015 - 04:06 PM

pira - That's the point primarily is that I'm trying to get away from overtly tactical looking pants for casual social settings.  If I expect to need the room or if the weather is iffy I cycle back to nyco or some sort of fast drying cargo pant.  I guess about the most low profile of those would be vertx lightweight.

 

When I do wear jeans here is what I carry with one big challenge marked *.

 

Keys including asp key defender, silver dollar and cuff key sugru'd together, PT1L clipped to same pocket

Lighter, gerber dime, and zt350 clipped to same pocket

Wallet

Cell phone

Pistol on one side and spare mag (horizontal) on other side on belt

*SOFT-W,Zpack gauze, gloves in pouch on belt or in ankle carry wrap

 

The mini trauma kit is a challenge to carry with jeans.  Any real estate on my belt that is available is not comfortable when I'm in the car or seated.  The ankle carry wrap seemed like a good idea until I tried it and remembered I hated ankle holsters and this feels about the same.  For cargo pants the trauma kit just drops in a cargo pocket and gtg.

 

Thanks for the input.  I was curious if anyone else had trouble and how they addressed it.

The trauma kit is where I hit the wall too. I don't usually ever have my bag more than 6 feet away, and on my person when moving. So I built one out of an external hard drive case, small enough to fit in the back pocket if needed. Otherwise easily grabbed from the bag.


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Posted 19 January 2015 - 04:24 PM

One more small issue.

Back pockets. I can't stand stuff in my back pockets. I find it uncomfortable. Plus, it can cause back problems. Especially if you drive a lot. Which I do. Even just sitting at your job can do it. So be careful with that. One more reason I went with cargo pants a long time ago.

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Posted 19 January 2015 - 06:15 PM

I've not found any issue with wearing levi's. g21 on my right hip with a tlr1 in a raven concealment. Knife for utility purposes RF, phone usually RF, wallet RR, medKit LR, coldsteel recon LR, Left side on belt is a dual mag carrier and right next to is a maxped key fob where i carry my truck keys, small lighter, pen, key chain screw drivers.



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Posted 21 January 2015 - 11:17 AM

I don't like cargo pants or shorts personally. Normally I wear Mountain Khakis or Duluth Trading Co. jeans with Vertx thrown in every now and then. The TAD Spartans and Intercept PD have really caught my eye lately especially since they're US made. 

 

I discovered Vertx pants a couple months ago and love them. I bought them to replace wearing Dockers at work, but may start wearing them at home too. They're comfortable, allow lots of range of motion (better than most of my jeans), material is very durable and they have as much functionality as any tacticool pants I've worn. And what's better, they don't look tacticool. I have to wear business casual at work (for reference, the Wrangler cargo pants pira suggested wouldn't fly) and not only are the Vertx pants okay, I've had a few guys ask where I got them because they like them. I stayed away from them for a while because $60 for a pair of pants seemed excessive, but you can find them on sale for ~$35 including shipping. My only complaint is Vertx actually means what they say the waist size is. I ordered my normal waste and found out it's too small, so I had to go an inch larger. The waist was exactly what they said, but I'm used to it being bigger than advertised.

 

As I'm writing this, I'm thinking I really should transition to more of the Vertx pants and less jeans...  But be aware, it's like crack. I found out how much I like the pants and figure, if their pants are so good, their bags must be too and now I want a new backpack... and messenger bag... and range bag...


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